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Together to Obtain More Timely Infrastructure Protection Information
NSTAC XXIII Meeting - May 2000
Working
Together to Obtain More Timely Infrastructure Protection Information
Remarks by Richard Clarke, National
Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counter-Terrorism,
before the President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory
Committee (NSTAC) Business Session, Colorado Springs, Colorado,
May 16, 2000.
Thank you, Van [Honeycutt, NSTAC Chairman]. Before
I begin let me just, on behalf of the President and the White House
family in general, thank you Van for all your good service over
the course of the last year in leading this group through a time
of transition and a time of challenge. And let me just say how much
we appreciate what you and the others have done over the course
of the last year.
It gives me a great deal of pleasure to be here today
because I'm actually a member of a persecuted minority that is unrecognized.
And this minority very seldom dominates any agenda. But I look at
the agenda today I see that three of the four Government speakers
are redheads and I just want to say to [Lieutenant] General [David
J.] Kelley [Manager, National Communications System] and to [Deputy
Defense Secretary] Rudy [de Leon], "You're about my age, why
is it still red?"
I know there's been a lot of questioning during the
course of the morning and last night about what really is the role
of NSTAC in the White House's view. And what's the role of NSTAC
as differentiated from the new National Infrastructure Assurance
Council (NIAC). So I thought before I talked substantively I would
talk a little about how we see these two organizations. How the
White House would like these two organizations to work to advise
the President, the incumbent, and I assume whatever successor President.
The first thing is, it's an advisory panel, they're
both advisory panels to the President. And I think we in the Executive
Office of the President and by that I mean the NSC, OMB, the Science
Advisorers Office, we in the Executive Office of the President have
failed over the course of the last several years to provide the
real-time linkage between the members of this advisory panel and
the President.
You're important people, you've got a lot to do, your
time is precious, but you also have a wealth of experience and knowledge
and can tap into even broader bases of experience and knowledge.
We need, as was originally intended when NSTAC was created, to find
a way to tap on a regular basis into that experience and knowledge
in an organized way and in internet years, not in the old fashioned
annual pace that we've been doing.
We look at the NSTAC to give us advice about telecoms,
the telecoms as your April report so eloquently proves, telecoms
and the Internet have converged. The networks have converged, the
technology has converged, so I think that in the future we need
to say that we look to NSTAC for advice not only on telecoms but
also on this new converged network.
We look to the National Infrastructure Assurance Council,
the NIAC, which will meet for the first time in about a month, we
look to the NIAC to provide us with advice on the other infrastructures:
banking and finance, pipelines, railroad systems, the other things
that are equally vulnerable to attacks on the internet, to attacks
on the telecom base but which have their own unique problems.
We would like the two groups to work in parallel and
coordinate their efforts. And so we are structuring the membership
of the two groups so that the NSTAC will continue to have its historical
focus on telecom, and now, the Internet. And the NIAC will have
the focus on the other infrastructures. But there will be key members
and key corporations that sit on both groups and provide the crosswalk
to do the coordination that is necessary.
How do we go back to the original intent of getting
the NSTAC to provide advice to the President in a timely way? What
I'd like to propose that you all think about is to change the way
we do business. Change even your bylaws so that if we in the Government
form a committee consisting of members of the Executive Office of
the President, OMB, NSC, OSTP, also consisting of the Commerce Department
which has an increasingly important role in this entire infrastructure
protection challenge as well as your Defense Department colleagues,
that committee on the Government's side could meet virtually through
telecommunications, through teleconferencing and we can even do
secure, as Rudy said, we can even do secure teleconferencing on
a more regular basis to tell the leadership of this organization
what the challenges are that we face in the Government, what we
are seeing. Not on an annual basis, but on a more frequent basis.
And then the advisory committee [NSTAC] could, under
its leadership, decide to create ad hoc task forces, not a regular
standing group with a bureaucracy, but rather ad hoc task forces
with the right people for the right study that could come back relatively
quickly with advice to the President, to the White House, to the
Defense Department. And then those task forces could go away. They
would have a sunset provision so that we don't create a big standing
bureaucracy. I'd be pleased to work with you on bringing more detail,
more granularity to that idea because I think we do need your advice
in a more regular, more frequent and more immediate way as we move
ahead.
Let me now suggest four areas where we need your advice
in the relatively near future. The first, taking a page from your
April report on convergence, is the vulnerability of our converged
networks. I have Wired magazine with me and I was thumbing through
it yesterday on the 9-hour flight from Washington and discovered
it has a centerfold this month. No it's not any of the CEOs. It's
a map of our new fiber-optics network around the country -- 17.5
million miles of fiber-optic network around the country. Nobody,
except perhaps Wired, knows where all of that is.
The NCS [National Communications System] has been
trying, with the help of Booz-Allen [and Hamilton], and Mike McConnell,
to develop a real-time database that shows where all of the telecom
wires are -- the major backbone, the major trunk lines, the fiber-optic
leads and the key nodes. The Internet nodes like "Mae East"
and "Mae West," the "telecom hotels", but we
do not have it at the level of granularity that others have. This
is an unclassified session so let me just say in a general way that
we have reason to believe others are also mapping our network and
it's not just Wired magazine. And they are looking for points of
vulnerability.
Many of you have advertised for years that you have
SONET rings cannot go down that no matter what the challenge, what
the failure, you will provide telecommunications support. I know
we all believe that and NSA believed it and NRO believed it and
yet as Rudy pointed out, last January -- at the beginning of January,
NRO, the National Reconnaissance Office was unable to provide satellite
support imaging satellite support, to the Defense Department and
national leadership.
For several days we were blind because now we have
just one electro-optical imaging system. And even though everyone
was assured it was redundant and reliable, it wasn't. And at the
end of that same month, NSA had a failure in its system to provide
to the intelligence community, to DOD and to the national leadership,
signals intercept technology upon which everything we do is based.
When you do these continuity exercises you always
try to make it difficult and in the exercise you throw in assumptions
that make things even harder than normal. And NSA had one of those
days. When it had its failure it was in the middle of a blizzard.
A blizzard that made it impossible for people to fly in to fix the
failure and so the failure went on and on and on. And so in January,
the national leadership at various points, the Defense Department,
the White House, the CIA were deaf at one point and blind in another
point. I think that means we were dumb overall.
If NRO and NSA can fail from single points of vulnerability
that we didn't know were there, let me suggest that it is possible
that our converged networks, our 17.5 million miles of fiber optics
can fail as well. We don't know where the single points of failure
are yet, but being cocky and reassuring ourselves that it can't
happen is a recipe for disaster. I'd like to challenge the NSTAC
to take the database that the National Communications System and
Booz-Allen and Hamilton have developed and refine it and make it
real-time.
You all know that database should be changing every
day. The fiber-optic lines are running up the streets of every city
every day. The network is changing every day. You're trading broadband
every day. We need to know where the network really is and then
we need to develop a template for defining the types of failure
that can occur. Physical attacks and cyber attacks.
What if half a dozen key nodes were blown up? Do we
even know at this point over what bridge over the Mississippi or
the Colorado all these lines are going? In some cases I think we
do not know how critical certain tunnels are, certain bridges are,
certain "telecom hotels" are. And it's not crazy to think
of physical attacks.
As I've been going around the country talking about
this, I keep referring to the book, The KGB Files; it's the story
of Mr. Matrenko, the KGB librarian. Every day during the lunch hour
he would copy out in handwriting the text of some interesting intelligence
file. He knew if he used the copying machine that he'd be caught.
He copied out by hand, he had put it in his sock because he knew
if he put it in his briefcase he'd be caught.
And over the course of several years he brought out
trunk loads, steamer trunk loads filled with interesting classified
KGB documents and we now know from looking at those documents that
the Soviet Union had a plan, in case of a period of tension with
the United States, to introduce covertly into the United States
special forces that would have small satchel bombs and would go
after key telecom's vulnerabilities, and pipelines and bridges --
it wasn't just telecom.
But if the Soviet Union thought seriously in the 60s
and 70s and into the 80s of physical attacks on our networks, why
do we think that our future enemies, and we will have future enemies
whether they're nation-states or terrorist groups, why do we think
that they won't do that as well. They can combine, our future enemies,
can combine a cyber attack on key points of failures, key vulnerabilities
with a physical attack. You need as a group to think about how you
will do that if you were they. Because I suggest that you will find
whether it's in the signal switches, whether it's in routers, whether
it's in the "telecom hotel," or a few key bridges. You
will find, I suspect, that there is a combination of things that
could be done that could be very fatal to our new converged networks.
The second thing I'd like to challenge you to think
about as a group and give us advice on is Information Sharing. We've
been able to establish an Information Sharing Center for the banking
industry. Thirteen banks representing almost 80 percent of the assets
of the United States formed a limited liability corporation and
formed a computer defense center, which SAIC is managing. We're
trying to get other sectors of the economy to do that as well. The
NCC has become, in effect, a telecom center, similar to the banking
and finance center.
We'd like the IT industry, separate and apart from
telecom, to form a similar center and many of you have been working
on that challenge for months. The President made clear in his February
meeting with many of you during the e-commerce attacks that he values
that as well. But we have to create these centers in every sector
of the economy -- railroads, pipelines.
And then we have to figure out how to exchange information
because although we have a few telecoms working with these bank
and finance centers, the information flow isn't working very well.
The Government isn't providing you, industry groups, with useful
information. Information flow is going well among the banks but
the government isn't providing information usefully to the banks.
We need your advice about how we can provide that
information in a trusted way, in a real-time way. To whom do we
provide it? What type of information? And we need, in doing all
of this, to ensure that your information is protected. Information
Sharing Centers are not designed for the Government to get information
from industry. Let me say that again because a lot of people don't
believe me. Our proposal for Information Sharing Centers is not
designed for industry groups to give information to the Government.
It's designed for the other way around, for information to flow
from the government to the industry groups.
The third thing we need your advice and assistance
on is, and Rudy's already alluded to this, is the training and scholarship
problem. We have a variety of different numbers about where the
shortfall is in trained personnel. ITAA [Information Technology
Association of America] and Harris Miller is here. ITAA has just
issued a very good study on the shortfall in IT personnel, it's
enormous and so the H1-B Visa issue is up again. And we may be forced
again to solve our national problem by going to India and Pakistan
and other countries.
But we can't do that with security. The shortfall
in IT personnel is even more acute with IT security personnel. The
President proposed last year and has proposed again this year, the
creation of an ROTC-like program where students who go to graduate
school or even undergraduate school and get degrees specializing
in IT security and the Government would pay for that education in
exchange for an obligation to work for the Government for a limited
period of time after which you will hire them. That's one of the
ways we can compete with you, is if we offer that scholarship program.
But that scholarship program did not get approved
by the Congress last year. It has not yet been approved by the Congress
this year. And if that plan is not going to fly, if that's not going
to stimulate the marketplace of higher education to do more in the
way of teaching IT security, then we need to hear another idea.
If the industry groups, if the colleges are not going to support
this idea with enough momentum to get it passed through the Congress
then you all have to come up with something better because it is
not sufficient for us as a nation to say that we're just going to
wait and somehow IT security personnel will fall from the sky to
fill the tens of thousands of vacancies. So we need your support
and we need your ideas about how to address that acute problem.
And finally, the President did issue a National Plan
to defend American cyber space in January. John Tritak from the
Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office, the CIAO office, led the
development of that plan and he and I and others are now going across
the country distributing it and having hearings and open discussions
about it. We called it Version 1.0. We did that intentionally. The
subtitle of the national plan is "An Invitation to a Dialogue."
It is a very good plan, I think, for a first draft
for protecting Government systems. It is a very poor first draft
for protecting private systems in the economy and therefore we need
advice about how to rewrite to make it reflect reality about how
we can seriously defend privately-owned and operated infrastructure.
We would like to issue Version 2.0 before this Administration leaves
office but to do that we need input from the private sector on how
to improve that part of the plan which so badly needs improvement
with discussion of the private sector.
So far, our attempts in the private sector have been
to avoid regulation and instead to jawbone, to try to persuade each
sector of the economy one by one to do the right thing. But unlike
Y2K, what the right thing is, isn't entirely obvious. With Y2K we
could tell you what you have to do -- change 2 digits to 4. Very
simple. With cyber security, it's not obvious. And so we've been
asking various groups to develop "best practices" so that
"defense in depth" doesn't just mean "the firewall,"
but it means a detailed series of things that have to be done and
updated on a regular basis—best practices and standards.
Now in addition to jawboning in the marketplace, we've
tried to stimulate the marketplace. Maybe this is a little dirty
pool but we have gone, I will tell you with all frankness, to the
internal auditors and we've gone to the insurance companies and
we're saying to the insurance companies and internal auditors, you
all need to develop standards. The corporate board members.
We have a program now where we're having regional
meetings in five regions throughout the country to meet with members
of the National Association of Corporate Directors. Explain to them
their personal interest and perhaps their personal liability as
a result of cyber security. And with the insurance companies, we're
explaining to them what their corporate board member insurance policies
cover and what they don't. What continuity of operations covers
and what it doesn't. And there are now insurance companies that
are beginning to provide policies for continuity of operations,
for information security but contingent upon a set of standards,
a set of "best practices." The internal auditors are now
attempting to develop that same set of standards and best practices
so that when they audit for an annual report they will be auditing
against a standard of cyber security. It's not Government regulation
but it may be more effective.
We need your ideas. So let me in summary talk about
the four things that, speaking from the White House, we would like
the NSTAC's help on. One, having a real up-to-date vision of where
the networks are, where the nodes are, and where the vulnerabilities
are. Two, finding a way to share information with the various Computer
Defense Centers in the various sectors of the economy. Three, either
promoting the President's plan for a Cyber Corps Scholarship Program
to begin to stimulate the higher education marketplace to train
IT security personnel or come up with a better plan. And four, comments
on the National Plan to Defend American Cyber Space focusing in
particular on the private sector part of that plan. That's a lot
of work to do.
If you want to know what we think is relevant,
what we would value, what the President would value, that's our
agenda. I hope it becomes your agenda.
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